Before The Moon Existed – Article 2
By Raymond Towers
In my previous post, I covered the scientific perspective as our modern mainstream educators present it to the public. I disagree that the Moon could have come from the Earth, and I postulate that Mars and the Moon were both struck by very large objects in the distant past. The impacts swept their atmospheres away and possibly shoved the Moon to where it is today. In this article, we’ll take a look at what one present day Moon observer is saying, and what historians were saying about the Moon millennia ago.
Let’s start off with the present day. We’ve got amateur astronomer Crrow777, who can be counted on to get his equipment out and focus it on the skies regularly. Crrow777 has observed many, many anomalies during his observation of the Moon. Most striking of these are what he calls the ‘Lunar Wave.’ On an old analog TV, you might have seen a line of interference descending from the top of the screen to the bottom. The Lunar Wave is similar to this. It starts on one limb of the Moon, and cascades all the way across to the opposite edge. The Wave is very subtle, and Crrow777 always shows the original clips before telling the viewer exactly how he’s adjusting the screen so the viewer has a better view. This man has filmed the Lunar Wave 5 times, and he’s gotten footage from other astronomers that show another 4 instances, or 9 altogether. (Update: I believe the Lunar Wave has been recorded 14 times now.)
Another intriguing facet is that Crrow777 has studied public domain maps from well-known astronomers of the 1700s and 1800s, and found that very few of the details of these maps match. Why don’t these maps match? Has the topography of the Moon changed that much during the last 300 years? What is going on with the Moon? Those are the sorts of questions Crrow777 is trying to find answers for.
So, we know there are funny things going on with the Moon. Let’s see what ancient historians had to say about it. See the website varchive for the original article, which I have reproduced below.
Democritus and Anaxagoras taught that there was a time when the Earth was without the Moon. (Hippolytus, Refutatio Omnium Haeresium V. ii.)
Aristotle wrote that Arcadia in Greece, before being inhabited by the Hellenes, had a population of Pelasgians, These aborigines reportedly occupied the land before there was a moon in the sky above the Earth; for this reason they were called Proselenes. (Aristotle, fr. 591 (ed. V. Rose [Teubner:Tuebingen, 1886] ). Cf. Pauly’s Realencyclopaedie der classischen Altertumswissenschaft, article “Mond” ; H. Roscher, Lexicon d. griech. und roemisch. Mythologie, article “Proselenes.”
The words Pelasgians and Proselenes mean ‘people before the moon.’ Wikipedia will hedge around this and claim the designations mean ‘indigenous peoples.’ That’s not what the historical evidence shows!
Apollonius of Rhodes mentioned the time “when not all the orbs were yet in the heavens, before the Danai and Deukalion races came into existence, and only the Arcadians lived, of whom it is said that they dwelt on mountains and fed on acorns, before there was a moon.” (Argonautica IV.264.)
Plutarch wrote in The Roman Questions: “There were Arcadians of Evander’s following, the so-called pre-Lunar people.” (Plutarch, Moralia, transl. by F. C. Babbit, sect. 76.)
Similarly wrote Ovid: “The Arcadians are said to have possessed their land before the birth of Jove, and the folk is older than the Moon.” (Fasti, transl. by Sir J. Frazer, II. 290. Jove is the planet Jupiter.)
Hippolytus refers to a legend that “Arcadia brought forth Pelasgus, of greater antiquity than the moon.” (Refutatio Omnium Haeresium V. ii. Ancient Greeks believed Pelasgus was the first Man, and that he came forth from the soil, rock or trees. In other words, the first Man was alive before the Moon came about. See the Wikipedia article on Pelasgus.)
Lucian in his Astrology says “the Arcadians affirm in their folly that they are older than the moon.” (Lucian, Astrology, transl. by A. M. Harmon (1936), p. 367, par. 26.)
Censorinus also alludes to the time in the past when there was no moon in the sky. (Liber de die natali 19; also scholium on Aristophanes’ Clouds, line 398.)
The memory of a world without a moon lives in oral tradition among the American Indians. The Indians of the Bogota highlands in the eastern Cordilleras of Colombia relate some of their tribal reminiscences to the time before there was a moon. “In the earliest times, when the moon was not yet in the heavens,” say the tribesmen of Chibchas. (A. von Humboldt, Vues des Cordillères (1816), English transl.: Researches Concerning the Institutions and Monuments of the Ancient Inhabitants of America, (1814), vol. I, p. 87; cf. H. Fischer, In mondener Welt (1930), p. 145.)
[In addition to the sources cited above, cf. The Nihongi Chronicles of Japan (I.ii, in Transactions and Proceedings of the Japanese Society, vol. I ) which recount how “Heaven and Earth . . . produced the Moon-god.” The Kalevala of the Finns recalls a time “when the Moon was placed in orbit.” (Rune III.35)]
The Chaldean version (of the Biblical Genesis myth) goes on to describe the birth of the Moon like this: Anu opened up the original abyss and created a whirling motion like boiling. (A spiral, maybe?) The Moon passed through an opening like a giant bubble and made its way across the heavens. What I find interesting here is that the Chaldeans / Babylonians are referring to a time when there was NO MOON IN THE SKY, which Plato and the Arcadian people also mention, but which the authors of the Bible have conveniently left out. (From my article The Bible vs. Babylon: The Genesis Myth.)
From the Library Of Halexandria website: Giordano Bruno (a 16th century Italian philosopher) is reputed to have written in De Immenso: (Bk IV, x, pp. 56-57): “There are those who have believed that there was a certain time (as our Mythologian says) when the moon, which was believed to be younger than the sun, was not yet created. The Arcadians, who dwelt not far from the Po, are believed to have been in existence before it (the moon).” “Theodorus writes in his first book that the moon had appeared a little while before the war which was fought by Hercules against the giants. Aristochius and Dionysius Chalcidensis, in the first of their works, confirm the same.” “Mnaseas said that the Arcadians were born before the moon, and so they were called ‘proselenian’; meaning, ‘before the moon’.”
Bruno goes on to step upon the sensibilities of future scholars by noting that, “the earth, which is of the same species as the moon, is of creatable and destructible substance, and is truly animal and even mortal, although divine. Therefore, the planets (worlds) are able to be created and destroyed, and it is not possible that they have been eternal, since we have proved them to be alterable and consisting of changing parts.” (Paterson, A. M., “Giordano Bruno’s View on The Earth without a Moon”, Pensee, Portland, Oregon, Volume 3, Winter, 1973.)
Who were the Arcadians that keep getting mentioned here? Herodotus wrote that the inhabitants of Arcadia were Pelasgians, the Greek name for the supposed ‘indigenous’ inhabitants of Greece, who dwelt there before the arrival of the ‘Hellenic’ tribes. Whilst Herodotus seems to have found the idea that the Pelasgians were not ‘Greek’ far-fetched, it is clear that the Arcadians were considered as the original inhabitants of the region. (Source: Wikipedia)
Okay, that’s about all I think I can cover as far as observation and historical perspective. I’ll be heading into the speculation arena in my next post.